Andrea Sassella
Publications
Benchmarking EngGPT2-16B-A3B against Comparable Italian and International Open-source LLMs
This report benchmarks the performance of ENGINEERING Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A.'s EngGPT2MoE-16B-A3B LLM, a 16B parameter Mixture of Experts (MoE) model with 3B active parameters. Performance is investigated across a wide variety of representative benchmarks, and is compared against comparably-sized open-source MoE and dense models. In comparison with popular Italian models, namely FastwebMIIA-7B, Minerva-7B, Velvet-14B, and LLaMAntino-3-ANITA-8B, EngGPT2MoE-16B-A3B performs as well or better on international benchmarks: ARC-Challenge, GSM8K, AIME24, AIME25, MMLU, and HumanEval (HE). It achieves the best performance for the longest context setting (32k) of the RULER benchmark. On the Italian benchmark dataset ITALIC, the model performs as well or better than the other models except for Velvet-14B, which outperforms it. Compared with popular MoE models of comparable size, the new model reports higher values than DeepSeek-MoE-16B-Chat on all considered benchmarks. It has higher values than Moonlight-16B-A3B on HE, MMLU, AIME24, AIME25, GSM8K, and the 32k RULER setting, but lower on BFCL and some ARC and ITALIC settings. Finally it has lower values than GPT-OSS-20B on most benchmarks, including HE, MMLU, AIME24, AIME25, GSM8K, ARC, BFCL, and the RULER 32k. When compared with popular dense models, EngGPT2MoE-16B-A3B reports higher values on AIME24 and AIME25 than Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct, Gemma-3-12b-it, and Ministral-3-8BInstruct-2512-BF16, but lower values on ITALIC, BFCL, and RULER with a 32k context. When performance is aggregated across all benchmark metrics, EngGPT2MoE-16B-A3B shows higher performance than the Italian models under evaluation while achieving lower results than some of the most performant international models, in particular GPT-5 nano and Qwen3-8B. Taken together, our findings find the new model to be a step forward for native Italian Large Language Models.
Are complicated loss functions necessary for teaching LLMs to reason?
Recent advances in large language models (LLMs) highlight the importance of post training techniques for improving reasoning and mathematical ability. Group Relative Policy Optimization (GRPO) has shown promise in this domain by combining group relative advantage estimation, PPO style clipping, and KL regularization. However, its complexity raises the question of whether all components are necessary for fostering reasoning behaviors. We conduct a systematic analysis of GRPO and identify two key findings: (1) incorporating negative feedback is essential training solely on actions above a baseline limits learning; and (2) PPO style constraints, such as policy ratio clipping, are not required to improve mathematical reasoning or performance. Building on these insights, we propose REINFORCE with Group Relative Advantage (RGRA), a simplified variant that retains group relative advantage estimation but removes PPO style clipping and policy ratio terms. Experiments across standard mathematical benchmarks indicate that RGRA has the potential to achieve stronger performance than GRPO. Our results suggest that simpler REINFORCE based approaches can effectively enhance reasoning in LLMs, offering a more transparent and efficient alternative to GRPO.